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Post by Oh-Geez on Aug 22, 2012 23:38:05 GMT -6
EA is clueless. In six years of tuning the same core gameplay engine, they have not come close to perfecting man coverage, zone coverage or run blocking. In fact they've probably taken a step backwards and you could argue NCAA 09 and 10 were better in all three of those areas (run blocking is probably about the same). Man without bump is worthless. Curls, shakes and 10-15 yard outs will beat it every time, regardless of rating. Try Honey Badger vs. a 70 OVR WR in practice mode. Those routes are complete every single time unless the receiver just drops it. Man bump turns every corner into Deion Sanders, except against the streak route. In reality, bumping actually makes it harder to cover a receiver. The whole point of bump in real life is the mess up the route timing and buy the blitz an extra half second. That's it. Once the bump is over, the receiver has the advantage. Thank you Mark Jaworski
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Post by trucker on Aug 23, 2012 1:25:40 GMT -6
1. JT nailed it. 2. Shut the fuck up Jim, way too late to the party and you quit. Man up. You STFU I posted as soon as I saw this BS thread that i didnt quit.
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Post by Rolle on Aug 23, 2012 7:57:40 GMT -6
You did quit...you can say whatever you want, you know you quit
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Post by Vtech on Aug 23, 2012 10:02:47 GMT -6
smh...sure jim.
cheat codes, you didn't quit, anything else?
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Post by DbGt4226 on Aug 23, 2012 10:18:18 GMT -6
EA is clueless. In six years of tuning the same core gameplay engine, they have not come close to perfecting man coverage, zone coverage or run blocking. In fact they've probably taken a step backwards and you could argue NCAA 09 and 10 were better in all three of those areas (run blocking is probably about the same). Man without bump is worthless. Curls, shakes and 10-15 yard outs will beat it every time, regardless of rating. Try Honey Badger vs. a 70 OVR WR in practice mode. Those routes are complete every single time unless the receiver just drops it. Man bump turns every corner into Deion Sanders, except against the streak route. In reality, bumping actually makes it harder to cover a receiver. The whole point of bump in real life is the mess up the route timing and buy the blitz an extra half second. That's it. Once the bump is over, the receiver has the advantage. preech son preech
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Post by Vtech on Aug 23, 2012 12:04:14 GMT -6
sorry forgot about what JT was saying.....If they didn't make the db's so good everyone would be on here complaining "it's too easy for wr's" "my db's are idiots" "I wish ea would make smarter defenders"
We've complained about forever then EA makes better db's and we complain more. There is no happy median, there will always be something to whine about. If they make a perfect game then whats there to work on?
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Post by JT on Aug 23, 2012 14:15:22 GMT -6
Yes, there is a happy med ium. And in six years of tuning the PS3 version, they should have found it 3-4 games ago. And yet they have crappy DBs running slant routes (typically the most difficult route to get in front of in real life) two yards in front of good WRs. That's absurd. It's not that difficult. The slant is hard to beat, so good, physical WRs should be able to get open most of the time and thus require help from the middle. Great corners should be the only ones able to consistently jump the route or make a play on the ball. There should also be options like in Madden to shade one side of the receiver so you can anticipate the slant or other routes. Pretty simple concepts. It's not that programming these things is impossible. Just that EA will never dedicate the time and money to make it work. If they make a perfect game then whats there to work on? Not asking for a perfect game, just at least one where the most fundamental gameplay aspects work well (man coverage, zone coverage, pass rush, run blocking). There are plenty of details to work on from there. Although, if someone made anywhere close to a perfect game, it would be so much fun that I would have no issue at all paying $60 every year for updated rosters, stadiums, uniforms, etc.
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Post by Vtech on Aug 23, 2012 15:34:29 GMT -6
You have no issue paying $60 for this right now.
If they didnt jump slant routes this whole thread would be someone bitching cuz Rolles qb was 32-35 and 31 were slant routes. Don't you think they wanna make a perfect game? We are like live in gf's when it comes to this game...we will never be happy. There will always be something to complain about, so why waste our breath doing it?
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Post by JT on Aug 23, 2012 16:31:09 GMT -6
Yeah I will pay $60 either way. You were saying if they made it perfect there'd be no reason to buy the next one. I was saying I'd still buy it.
If coverage was somewhat realistic, you could make defensive adjustments and Rolle couldn't complete every slant route. He would complete some and not others.
They don't put the money or resources to make this game anywhere close to perfect. There have been really great sports games before, but none of the NCAA series on PS3 have come close.
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Post by Vtech on Aug 23, 2012 16:49:58 GMT -6
1 word why ncaa is ass every year.............Madden.
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Post by BigJangaLang on Aug 23, 2012 20:05:30 GMT -6
^Yeah...sure.
Vtechs too hard nosed and lazy to be an advocate for change lol. Even though it's wrong he just accepts it and says "Well that's the way its always been" instead of acknowledging there is a problem.
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Post by trucker on Aug 23, 2012 21:01:41 GMT -6
I admitted I ended game but was a accident not international. I was willing to finish is my point. "
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Post by Vtech on Aug 24, 2012 6:28:36 GMT -6
^Yeah...sure. Vtechs too hard nosed and lazy to be an advocate for change lol. Even though it's wrong he just accepts it and says "Well that's the way its always been" instead of acknowledging there is a problem. i advocated changed 3 years ago when I starting fucking with madden full time rather than ncaa. Jang is too stubborn to realize that madden is the big boy game and ncaa is the kiddie game
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Post by Rolle on Aug 24, 2012 7:10:30 GMT -6
Jim I never got asked to restart even in this thread that I posted immediately, you could have been on here asking to continue, instead you waited til you realized u were actually being penalized to suggest that...no one buys that you didnt quit anyway, just move on, you're Alabama and you're still horrible
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 8:00:45 GMT -6
No I just have a life and don't spend hours finding exploit plays due to a bad design. And as soon as. I logged back in you started, insulting me before I could say anything
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 8:03:02 GMT -6
So1/2 tonight we will play entire game fppr. Stats but only count HF time score u up 35 put up or shut up
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Post by Vtech on Aug 24, 2012 8:45:03 GMT -6
ahhhh they typical "If I beat you you're a noob and you suck, or you beat me you have no life" arguement. Love that one
Jim- 64 games played Rolle- 49 games played
No life arguement is void
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Post by Oh-Geez on Aug 24, 2012 12:13:06 GMT -6
LOL
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Post by Rolle on Aug 24, 2012 12:44:20 GMT -6
So1/2 tonight we will play entire game fppr. Stats but only count HF time score u up 35 put up or shut up I don't know what this means, but im only replaying you if Prez says I have to...i know you quit and you should lose the draft spots for it
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 12:46:09 GMT -6
Typical you avoid issue I offer a chance to finish game but you just want to
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Post by Rolle on Aug 24, 2012 12:48:42 GMT -6
Why should I finish a game 4 days later, where I know you quit just because I was kicking your ass, and you're a sore loser...you are well known for quitting games when you get blown out, just do us all a favor, take your -5 spots and move on with it
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 19:18:09 GMT -6
In other words you quit I said day one I didn't quit you posted this without even asking if I would finish game so I guess you lose
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Post by Rolle on Aug 24, 2012 20:14:03 GMT -6
Lol
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 22:02:54 GMT -6
Wekll if you refuse to finish no stats should be allowed
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Post by JT on Aug 24, 2012 22:12:55 GMT -6
There's no need to finish the game either way. 35-0
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Post by BigJangaLang on Aug 24, 2012 22:42:56 GMT -6
Jim loves being a drain on the league. It's been handled and done with. Stop it.
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Post by trucker on Aug 24, 2012 22:46:57 GMT -6
No Jim don't lloves being lied on I offered to finish
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Post by Vtech on Aug 25, 2012 11:41:06 GMT -6
jim your rep in this league is ass..you have zero credibility. You lost the gm and draft spots...someone please lock this thread.
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Post by trucker on Aug 25, 2012 12:02:59 GMT -6
Well I could care. Less what a closet fag says '
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Post by Oh-Geez on Aug 25, 2012 12:34:16 GMT -6
If I win the title. I think Im going to trade for Alabama
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