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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 6:07:49 GMT -6
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 6:10:01 GMT -6
I don't use this, but damit, quit cry'n about it or ban it, I don't care!
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Post by trucker on Oct 19, 2011 6:36:22 GMT -6
Rpd some want this to be the NDL with stands for No Defense League.
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Post by starshaw on Oct 19, 2011 6:37:32 GMT -6
He was able to take down the QB in the backfield before he could pitch it and he even said "its risky to run against it". That should be enough to ban it.
I'm downing my own breakdown on the 1-5-5 in general I will have a vid up today breaking it down.
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 6:41:25 GMT -6
Rpd some want this to be the NDL with stands for No Defense League. Yea I was a member a couple of years ago, If you can be creative on offense, you should be able to be creative on deffense... not saying nano blitz's and that crap, but hot routing spy's and de's to contian shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by trucker on Oct 19, 2011 6:49:41 GMT -6
NDL Can't use Sggressive settings, Cant play pass on 3rd and 48 u know defense will be playing Pass in RL but not NDL,If you see someone makeing a mistake on Defense don't dare exploit it. IE. Blitzing Corner every down Don't daew go streaks to overwhelm safety and the bomb it. Again Like I told Sudden why don't you just coach game be about as fun.
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 6:55:05 GMT -6
He was able to take down the QB in the backfield before he could pitch it and he even said "its risky to run against it". That should be enough to ban it. I'm downing my own breakdown on the 1-5-5 in general I will have a vid up today breaking it down. He also said that he wound up having 280 yards rushing vs a user. Like I said, I don't use that, I don't like it, but it's easy to beat. My question is.... do people think the entire 1-5-5(both schemes) is cheap garbage or is it just the fact that people use it for nano/shake blitzes? this is a great find.... www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2009/9/21/1047264/the-2-4-5-and-1-5-5-revealed
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 6:58:43 GMT -6
quote form above article "Imagine you're an opposing QB facing the Steelers. All day you've been pursued doggedly by the defense. Maybe you've been sacked, maybe you've gotten lucky. Whatever the case, you've taken them on from the base defense (the 3-4) and the Nickel package (the previously mentioned 2-4-5). Perhaps it's a crucial 3rd down, maybe you've just spread the field on 1st. No matter down and distance, they break the huddle. You know Dick LeBeau doesn't blitz recklessly, instead preferring to confuse and frustrate his opponents. The Steelers line up in the 1-5-5. You see five, perhaps 6 men jumping around in the box, constantly shifting positions; there is only one down lineman. Your palms grow sweaty and a lump rises in your throat. The play clock is ticking down, and you have to snap the ball. You take a breath...HIKE! All hell breaks loose. You have no chance."
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 7:26:41 GMT -6
All this talk hasme digging up info on the 1-5-5.... turns out you see it pretty much every weekend, the Patriots use it on almost all 3rd and 4th downs. The steelers use it, TCU, uses it...well pretty much all college teams that run the 4-2-5/3-3-5 and 3-4 deffenses uses at some point.
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Post by starshaw on Oct 19, 2011 7:32:26 GMT -6
Jim nobody want this to be a "No defense league" most of us want this to be a non BS gimmicky type of league, This league was founded on seperating itself from the lobby by cutting out the bs. The reason why you and some others don't want it banned is cause you know your screwed without it cause it overpowers the AI you don't really have to do a whole lot as a user just let the AI do all the work for you. If the 1-5-5 was banned then that means everyone would have to depend on there stick skills and playcalling ability to play a good defensive game something that some of these guys are not very good at so they sit in the 1-5-5 all game, They want the 1-5-5 legal so the game will be dumbed down for them to cover up there poor skills. If you have to depend on the 1-5-5 to play a good a defensive game then what does that say about you? Its means your not skilled enough to compete on a fair level so you got to use a shortcut to give you the upperhand.
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Post by starshaw on Oct 19, 2011 7:38:10 GMT -6
Teams use it as a situational defense like on obvious passing downs but not as a base D.
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 7:46:40 GMT -6
Teams use it as a situational defense like on obvious passing downs but not as a base D. Correct! I use it in passing situations, or I'll mix it in when people go no hudle to throw them off.
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Post by starshaw on Oct 19, 2011 7:55:06 GMT -6
Thats fine but we got people here who use it like its a base defense.
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Post by Coach P on Oct 19, 2011 8:27:28 GMT -6
Jim seems to just be learning how to win.
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Post by trucker on Oct 19, 2011 9:00:18 GMT -6
Well hell starshaw the fleeflicker takes advantage of the AI so lets ban it. And afast rb out of backfield is picked up by a LB No chance on a streak he can keep up Let's ban that The slant takes advantage og a defender having to react to a sudden cut by wr lets ban that. Football is about taking advantage of mistakes. To be honest (Ask Vtech I may run 1-5-5 10% of my plays but I am tired of the "I can't beat it so ban it" whinners. I am finally having a good season and all u do is whine about it. Fucking Man up adapt and over fucking come. If you want to play boring football the NDL has a opening because i quit for this reason no freedom allowed. They want you to fucking run a vanallia gameplan with no creativity. And not take advantage of mismatches. FUCK THAT!
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Post by BigJangaLang on Oct 19, 2011 9:13:32 GMT -6
Breathe Jim. The 1-5-5 has no effect on me whatsoever. I don't care if you run it against me.
Point is though more and more people on here are disliking its use so we should look towards banning it. There's nothing wrong with giving the people what they want everyonce and awhile. It's gimmicky and towards glitchy so I don't see anything wrong with a proposal.
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Post by Coach P on Oct 19, 2011 9:32:55 GMT -6
The sad thing is we have a rule that says NO PLAYER can play DL except a DLINE man.. If we are going to allow 155 why cant i use the 2 4 5 that has LBs stand up at DEs.. I would use this but do not because of the spirit of the league. If more guys would do this we would have no problems.
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Post by rpdr38 on Oct 19, 2011 9:41:19 GMT -6
The sad thing is we have a rule that says NO PLAYER can play DL except a DLINE man.. If we are going to allow 155 why cant i use the 2 4 5 that has LBs stand up at DEs.. I would use this but do not because of the spirit of the league. If more guys would do this we would have no problems. I believe that is a supstitution rule to prevent asshats from putting a 3rd string corner or safety in at de(for examle). If it's a formation sub because of a deffensive shceme it's ok, meaning if it's part of that scheme with out you manualy subing the player it's ok.
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Post by Eberry on Oct 19, 2011 10:01:58 GMT -6
It's a madden video...get ncaa and we can talk...until then this will be locked.
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