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Post by JT on Oct 28, 2008 3:55:31 GMT -6
vtech says: "so heres a thought, when i come out in that play and you see your in man and not aligned properly, audible. If it was such a glich it would have a 100% success rate, it doesn't. If it gets you out of that play where end comes in untouched then i will continue to come out in it. " First of all, I don't know of any play that the end comes in untouched. Not saying it doesn't happen, but there isn't any particular play that I pick in order to try to cheat the game and get a cheap sack. I would despise having to play like that to win. A glitch is just what I said it was: "It's an entirely unintended consequence of poor programming and lack of debugging." Success rate makes no difference. The WR direct on the PS2 was a glitch, obviously. That doesn't mean it was always successful. It was possible to counter. Does that make it acceptable to use? Of course not. And of course, from now on I will audible if you do that. Last time I tried calling timeout, but I had just called one so it wouldn't let me. And so I got caught in this ridiculous mess: Now if you feel good about scoring on a play where my corner is stuck 8 yards away from your receiver due to faulty programming, I don't know what to tell you. That's a straight bug and anyone that can look at that screenshot and say otherwise worries me. Rule #2 under mandatory gameplay seems to rule out using such a tactic. Again, it won't be a problem for me if you do keep using it because I now know how to audible quickly and counter it. But I would hate to see anyone use something like that to beat someone in a close game. It's against the basic tenets of fair play.
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Post by Vtech on Oct 28, 2008 8:08:55 GMT -6
the reason i call this play is so my guy gets inside your CB. you can argue this all you want. If this gets banned then I will just motion my WR and snap the ball when he is in this position so he gets inside your CB.
If you want to get picky about stuff like this, then everything should be examined. How about Crashing the line? You do that..is that not taking advantage of offensive lines AI. Thats why your end comes in untouched. If this play isn't an issue for you to stop then quit crying. This isn't lytzeout. There is plenty of shit that goes on with this game, my one play out this formation is far from the worst. Would like to discuss user catching next....the unrealistic speed burst they get before catching the ball is terrible...we should ban user catching, line crashing/spread, and manually controlling any defensive player.
and please don't even compare my one play to WR direct snap or some of the other garbage that has been pulled online.
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Post by Rolle on Oct 28, 2008 8:56:00 GMT -6
vtech = cheese
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Post by Coach P on Oct 28, 2008 9:22:26 GMT -6
Well we all have been playing long enough to start to point out some of the flaws in the ai. There is a number of ways to rape the ai but the reason WE are in a league together is to have fun with guys that enjoy similar college football interest. WE make up this leagie and if WE dont make it fun for each other then it is no better than lobby games. I really enjoy the league and really like the fact that some of the guys have been in it for a long time.
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Post by COFL President on Oct 28, 2008 10:20:03 GMT -6
so vtech is blatantly usuing a glitch in the gm? why? u need to cheat to get yds? just play the gm guys, these gay arguments r getting really old & they always involve vtech or j-train
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Post by Vtech on Oct 28, 2008 12:02:11 GMT -6
i'm still convinced its a glitch..whats the difference between him lining up there or motioning him there. If someone comes out in flex bone no one is head up on the wing back, does that make that a glitch too? THERE ARE defenses where the cb will line up on the WR, people use them on me..invest some time in the lobby and you will find them
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Post by JT on Oct 28, 2008 13:43:45 GMT -6
Jesus, you are comparing two FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT things. Glitch vs. over-effective tactic. Are you looking at the screenshot? And you are comparing that to crashing the line? You're kidding yourself.
And saying that's the same thing as hiking the ball while in motion? Laughable. Hiking the ball while in motion might give you a lateral step on the corner. And you wanna compare that to 10 fucking yards? Unreal. The corner in the glitch might as well be on the sidelines or in the stands because that is how useful he is. And I mean that in all seriousness. If there was a play you could call that would make a defender from the opposing team stand next to the back pylon in the endzone, would you be OK with that? Because he might as well be there, he would be literally just as useful.
The funny thing is how Hokie gets a forfeit loss for going for it on 4th and more than 3 with 30 seconds in the 3rd quarter, and yet this hideous, absurd glitch that gives you an automatic touchdown if your opponent doesn't know how to quickly counter it goes without discussion. And if Prez thinks glitches are perfectly OK and no fundamentally different than line crashes or user catching or curl routes, then I will search for every glitch I can find and use them mercilessly, just to prove a point.
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Post by Vtech on Oct 28, 2008 16:21:48 GMT -6
Really gaytrain? touchdown everytime?? it has scored 1 td on you and that was from the 5 yardline. QUIT YOUR FUCKING CRYING You are making it out to be unstoppable yet i have no titles in the ps3 era. I use this play on everyone and you are the only one who has bitched about it. ITS NOT A GLITCH The WR lines up up there, change your defense up and there is no issue...i'm not going to adjust my offensive playcalling to conform perfectly to your D...I will continue to use it....
and btw when i run this play 85% of the time i throw to the TE on the other side....can't wait to see what you type next..your wasting your time
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Post by JT on Oct 28, 2008 16:59:55 GMT -6
I am wasting time. The glitch worked three times against me, twice for touchdowns, one was a huge 40+ yard gain. Two were consecutive plays in one drive. Check our Auburn/LSU playoff thread: "3. I take it into field goal range and get stopped on 3rd down one yard shy to bring up a 4th and 1. I decide to be safe and kick the FG and make him score a touchdown with only around 45 seconds left and no timeouts. He starts with it around the 30. I come out it quarter defense, man cover 2. My corner back lines up 4-5 yards left of the receiver he is suppose to cover, and there's nothing I can do about it. The receiver flies by him, makes the catch and the safety has to save the touchdown. He no huddles and I'm stuck in the same play and my corner lines up the same way. He throws it to him again and this time he gets by my safety for the go ahead TD. Ridiculous. I should have taken a screenshot of how my guy was lined up. Incredibly frustrating." Here's the more recent one: Yeah, that's the 13. So that's roughly 83 yards and two touchdowns using it. Classy. And then you lie about it, saying you used it once from the 5 yard line? I've made my case well and anyone can read over both arguments and see which one wins. You've called me gay and said I was crying. I've made a long analytical discussion of the issue at hand.
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Post by Vtech on Oct 28, 2008 18:02:03 GMT -6
do you hear what i hear?
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Post by Thurman Murman on Oct 28, 2008 20:21:51 GMT -6
quit whining j train. youve won 2 titles in the past 3 seasons, ur the defending champ. you should be happy. defend ur title with some grace. i say vtech wins. but now ur gonna come on here with a long argument about how i am wrong and u are right and use big words and put them in bold and 72 font to make a point. oh well, sounds like fun.
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Post by JT on Oct 28, 2008 23:05:09 GMT -6
If sticking up for fair play is ungraceful, then consider me guilty as charged. Now, I love you both. Let's carry on with Prez's wonderful league.
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Post by COFL President on Oct 29, 2008 0:04:25 GMT -6
jtrain i thought u were black for the longest time
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Post by Vtech on Oct 29, 2008 4:50:48 GMT -6
jtrain i thought u were black for the longest time lmao
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